22 July 2010



Summer is rolling along and all is well here. I’ve been harvesting strawberries from our garden; our plants did really well this year and we had a bumper crop of sweet, delicious berries. Sadly, the same cannot be said of our raspberries bushes. I’m not sure what’s wrong with them but the berries are quite small and fall apart as I pull them off the plants. I’ll have to do some research and figure out how I can get them to do better next summer. I also picked some cherries today and am looking forward to using them in a dessert…something with chocolate, I think.

I recovered from my World Cup love affair with Spain by taking a quick trip over to England with Husband to visit a couple of his friends and also to drop in on my friend and fellow ex-pat blogger, Joanne. Jo and I have known one another for over two years now through our blogs and through email but this was the first time we’d met in person and it was wonderful! She and her family moved to England from South Africa only seven months ago, so we now have the “starting over in a new country” thing in common in addition to all of the other things we’d already bonded over. I had a perfectly lovely time. They took me sight-seeing around their picture-perfect English countryside, complete with quaint seaside villages, authentic fish and chips, and most excellent local beer (Adnams Broadside…hmmmm.) It’s tragic that I forgot my camera and have absolutely zero photographs to document our fun. Next time!

Sometimes I can’t believe how lucky I am to have met so many amazing people through my blog. From the very beginning, really… Emily, Victoria, Liz, Helen, Caroline, Kristin, and now Jo. I look forward to meeting Mel and Gretch one day soon, and to hanging out with a whole load of my blogging buddies at the Oslo BlogFest coming up at the end of August. It’s going to be a hoot!

I had an interesting conversation with a man on the airplane coming back from England. We were chatting a bit about Norway and England and the near-global economic crisis and I mentioned how fortunate I felt to be living in Norway, where I was able to earn a decent living working as a cleaner. My new friend responded with a tad bit of disdain at this statement. “I have no admiration for a society that engineers that kind of false equality,” he said. “When a cleaner can earn as much as a professional, something is wrong. Why would anyone strive to be better, to be innovative, to create? Socialist economies make people comfortable and that’s bad for business. Markets work best when there’s an upper class and a lower class, a group that owns things and a group that works hard to also own things. What you have in Norway cannot be sustained. It will lead nowhere good.”

I’ve heard this kind of thing before from quite a few people. To be honest, I used to think a little bit the same way when I first moved here from California because the society and government are so, so different from the aggressively competitive atmosphere I was used to back home. I’ve totally changed my mind about that now, though, because I realize it’s just not correct.

It’s incorrect to assume that all Norwegians are economically equal. Sure, there is hardly any grinding poverty, not many people sleeping on the streets like we had in San Francisco. If you have a job in Norway, you earn a wage that, in general, enables you to take care of yourself. Isn’t that the way it should be? How can that be wrong? Can’t life be more than just working all the time? Anyway, believe me, there are plenty---plenty!!---of wealthy people here. So, although there isn’t a huge lower class, there is definitely an upper class. And as for striving, you don’t need poverty to make people strive---that’s what greed is for! Right? Remember Gordon Gekko in the original “Wall Street?” Remember what he said about greed?

“The point is, ladies and gentleman, that greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right, greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through, and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Greed, in all of its forms; greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge, has marked the upward surge of mankind.”

I feel safe in saying that Norway, just like everywhere else, has its share of greedy people, in a good way. There is innovation and creation happening here, all by people who are probably pretty glad they don’t have to step over homeless people on their way to work.

But people have been debating economic models for generations, so I knew better than to get too into it with my fellow RyanAir passenger. I just repeated that I was happy to be living in Norway and then I stuck my face in my book. A Norwegian crime novel that I’m proud to say I’m more than halfway through. Because I’ve been working hard on my Norwegian. Because I know that I won’t get a better job without better language skills. And I do want a better job. I guess I’m a little greedy, too. And I’m looking forward to seeing the sequel to “Wall Street.”


9 comments:

Return to Norway said...

I'd be interested to find out which society he feels does 'work best'.....

Wonderful to hear that you had such a good time with Jo!

Joanne said...

I too am glad to hear you had such a good time with Jo ;)

Balance is good.

Trigve said...

Love Oliver Stone - looking forward to seeing South of the Border as well as Money Never Sleeps. Seems like movies may be the only way to wake up/inform a large proportion of the population. US style 24 hr news seems to misinform and most people do not take the time to read/listen/watch quality news. How on earth did political ads become a source of information???

Re. Norway I am convinced the country is doing so well because of relative equality in wages - there is only so much GDP and it makes sense to share it more equitably so everyone has some money to spend. Exact opposite of banana republics and very different to USA and even the UK.

CFLiz said...

Hey Michele,

Been lurking on your blog for a couple of months now, since I realized it had been reborn after your hiatus. :) I'vew managed to spend 3 months in the US so far this year (go me), but I'm in Oslo now (wah) and still will be in late August, so drop me an email if you want to meet then!

CFLiz said...

Oh, shoot, I actually checked the Blog thingy dates and I'll be in Tromsø then...oh well. :(

Irish Nomad said...

Didn't realise you were back in the public domain Michele. Yehey! Fab that you met Jo - any pics?! Interesting conversation about Norway's economics; it's hard to argue with the fact that people are well looked after there and that as a society that functions well for most, I have yet to come across a place that is better than Norway. And you are right there are some stinking rich people there too...Am sure this argument will run and run.

Michele said...

Caroline -- he seemed fond of the emerging markets, those with a huge underclass of worker bees, hungry (!) for success. I'll take Norway, thanks. :-)

Jo! Hello! I miss you. Balance is best.

Trigve -- Oliver Stone is a total radical and I adore him. I feel pretty lucky to be living in Norway right now. I have a friend back in the Bay Area who lost her job last year, her unemployment is running out, she has no health insurance, and will soon have to choose between buying food or paying her rent. The US is a horrible place to be poor.

HI LIZ! OMG, it's been so long! We have to get together soon. Since you'll be out of town in August, we'll make another date. We're pretty happy in Norway now---so different to two years ago (for me anyway...). In fact, 3 months in the US sounds like too long to me. Give me 3 months in Barcelona. :-) I'll email you.

Hi Irish Nomad in Malaysia! I'm sorry I haven't dropped by to visit your new blog yet---I'll get right over there. Sorry no pics of Jo and I---I forgot my camera! Lame, I know. Next time... You've been a lot of places, so for you to say that Norway is ideal, that's sayin' something. I've gone soft on it myself. Looking forward to reading about your new life in Malaysia!

Anonymous said...

I've heard the argument that the welfare state is unsustainable since the 60s. No sign of it crashing down yet.
In fact, it seems to me that every year, the "welfare countries", not just oil-rich Norway but also countries like Denmark, the Netherlands etc. have outpaced the anglosphere countries.

There was a pretty big difference between the living standards in the US and Scandinavia in the 60s. Less so in the 70s, and even less in the 80s, etc.

So I regard the "the welfare state is unsustainable" arguments as about equal to the "Albania is the communist light of the world and a workers paradise" arguments of the 70s. Its a nice mental construct of theories and assumptions, but it just doesn't really mach reality as we observe it.

Anyway, the fellow was also worng in assuming that envy of your neighbour as a driving force is proportional to the income differences between your neighbour and you.
You will be just as motivated by an income difference of 50% as one of 500%

Michele said...

@ Anonymous -- very well said. I see Germany is roaring back from the economic crisis and its companies are hiring again. During the crisis, the government supplemented incomes of private employees whose working hours were reduced (instead of being made redundant). Many employees used that time to study and/or get training, making them more valuable to their employers upon their return to fulltime work. That's a great example of business and gov't working together in a "welfare" state.